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Lapine Davion
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Posted - 2012.04.20 07:43:00 -
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Scamming for in-game stuff is one thing, but actually going out of your way to convince someone to sink money into plex in order to take that isk is not only ****** up, but also against the TOS.
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Posted - 2012.04.20 07:44:00 -
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But all eve players who scam and gank are just IRL psychopaths who should be not only banned from the game, but put in jail for life.
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:23:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Alpheias wrote:Well, this has never happened before... armchair psychologists looking to analyze and categorize behaviors in a game. Only problem with that is, some of this input isn't armchair psychology. I'm surprised you didn't add "and generalizations to gloss over the uncomfortable truths involved." Oh. You weren't being intellectually honest, just showing some jaded 'tude. I get it.
Says the person who likes to make sweeping generalizations of whole groups of people. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! |
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Posted - 2012.04.21 07:09:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:
ppl like this; who blur the in game out of game lines are worrysome
Communications channels pertaining to the game are the definition of meta-game. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! |
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Posted - 2012.04.21 07:14:00 -
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So I have a question for all you folks who insist that anyone who behaves anti-socially in-game MUST also be sociopaths out-of-game as well. Do you agree with the man in this interview?
Jack Thompson is a man who believes that video games turn people into killers. Essentially he believes that if a person is allowed to act out in an anti-social manner in a video game, that they will do it in real life.
Now, as I understand it, a few of you also seem to think this way, so tell me, would you agree with him? Mind you, this is a man who would have all video games banned. Even a video game as innocuous as The Sims. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! |
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:30:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:So I have a question for all you folks who insist that anyone who behaves anti-socially in-game MUST also be sociopaths out-of-game as well. Do you agree with the man in this interview? Jack Thompson is a man who believes that video games turn people into killers. Essentially he believes that if a person is allowed to act out in an anti-social manner in a video game, that they will do it in real life. Now, as I understand it, a few of you also seem to think this way, so tell me, would you agree with him? Mind you, this is a man who would have all video games banned. Even a video game as innocuous as The Sims. It all seems a little irrational and far-fetched when you listen to them doesn't it. I couldn't watch all of it honestly. Between the raging film maker subtitling through the entire thing in an uninformed fanboy way, and the postulating of the speaker suggesting video games turned people into killers it was just too much. Anyway, I do agree in part at least with the basic idea presented there. You shouldn't let kids play video games like GTA, and you should restrict their access to the internet. The internet can be a very bad place my friends. Actually serious about that; there are a lot of very weird deviant sorts out there that like to corrupt minds, and not just young ones. Anyway, children are maleable, easily influenced, and if you have any decency you will not subject them to the likes of Grand Theft Auto. There are plenty of video games that they can play with little or no inappropriate influences but that is not one of them. I'd rather my kids watched Game of Thrones with all its nudity and violence than have them play that game. At least there are morals and lessons to be learned from such a TV series. I'd still hesitate to let them see it-or anything like it-till they were older though. Point is, that children, (even up to the age of 14 and after), are developing opinions and views about the world, their place in it, and what they believe to be not only right and wrong, but acceptable and appropriate behaviours. There is a reasonn why tales told ages ago were intended to have a moral, and why they revealed consequences for evil or unsavory acts. They were intended to teach, and we have all but forgotten that now, as a society. So yes, fundamentally I agree with such trash and tripe as was in that video, but on a more intuitive level I am fully aware that it is prejudiced and perhaps even hypocritical of them. Reasonably, I argue that they are speaking without objectivity and speaking out of their arses. In short, they have no idea what they are talking about and probably couldn't carel less about it or anyones children, or even the future of mankind. It's just an ego trip for a bunch of self indulgent, over-opinionated windbags, (okay, I never heard what the rest of them had to say, so it's just the first guy to whom I am referring), who are inflating their own egos while preaching to the choir. They make movies about stuff like this. The Postman comes to mind. What was the name of the guy who wrote that book that everyone thought was the second coming or something. Eventually the world order collapsed and a whole bunch of other stuff, and this all made up the background for the movie? Good movie though.
The name of the guy was Nathan Holn. God I love The Postman. Jack Thompson not only believes that video games like Grand Theft Auto should be kept out of the hands of kids. He believes they should be kept out of the hands of everybody. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 03:44:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote: What pisses me off is that some people will paint anyone who ganks a Hulk as a socio/psychopath, a generally bad person in real life. That attitude/thinking/reasoning is simply garbage.
And that is your opinion. That you discount the opinion or view, or feelings is what is at the root of this. If you do not care about how someone else feels about their pixel space ship, RL feelings that person may have, then to you it is an okay thing - their feelings don't matter to you, the pixel space ship is secondary. It's a game, if you want to pretend to be a heartless scum bag that doesn't care about the golden rule, go for it. But don't whine when someone calls you a heartless scum bag. Their feelings don't matter to you, why the hell should your feelings matter to them? Cry more scum bag :)
Wait, what if we don't care about someone's pretend spaceship because it is just pretend? Are we still scumbags for not caring about a persons pretend things? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 03:51:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: Wait, what if we don't care about someone's pretend spaceship because it is just pretend? Are we still scumbags for not caring about a persons pretend things?
You missed the point, the pretend space ship is secondary.
So what is primary? The persons feelings about their pretend spaceship? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 03:56:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: So what is primary? The persons feelings about their pretend spaceship?
Yep.
Does it make me a heartless prick if I don't care about a persons feelings toward their pretend spaceship? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 04:02:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: So what is primary? The persons feelings about their pretend spaceship?
Yep. Does it make me a heartless prick if I don't care about a persons feelings toward their pretend spaceship? Yep.
Does that make me a violent sociopath in real life? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 04:24:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Nope. Being a violent sociopath in real life makes you a violent sociopath in real life.
Does someone in the game calling you a "real life violent sociopath" bother you?
I would be lying if I said it wasn't frustrating a little bit for being labelled a sociopath by armchair psychologists for pretend actions in a video game about pretend spaceships.
Especially when it always seems as though THEY are the ones who cannot distinguish reality from fantasy. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 04:28:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Nope. Being a violent sociopath in real life makes you a violent sociopath in real life.
Does someone in the game calling you a "real life violent sociopath" bother you? I would be lying if I said it wasn't frustrating a little bit for being labelled a sociopath by armchair psychologists for pretend actions in a video game about pretend spaceships. Especially when it always seems as though THEY are the ones who cannot distinguish reality from fantasy. It is their emotions that are real. The context of the setting in which those emotions manifest is not relevant.
But the setting is what it is all about. It is the difference between someone being upset that their car caught fire and someone being upset that their pretend spaceship blew up. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 04:32:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: But the setting is what it is all about. It is the difference between someone being upset that their car caught fire and someone being upset that their pretend spaceship blew up.
That however is not for you to decide. One's emotional attachment to their pixel space ship is not yours to determine. You can only determine your emotional attachment to your pixel space ship.
Then I guess I'm a heartless *****. In the video game. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Posted - 2012.04.22 19:45:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:But do you also admit that Eve is a place where nice people can act like complete psychopaths and *not* be jerks IRL? I think you could play the role of a ruthless pirate, as in kill everything on sight, and not be a jerk or ill, for that matter, in real life. But if you enjoy other people's misery or if your intent is to "collect tears" because it makes you feel better, even if using a game as a tool to realize this, I have no doubts whatsoever that you are an ill individual in real life. To me it is all about intent. You can deny it all you want. If you enjoy "tears" or making others' gaming experience miserable this is no longer an in-game personality that you can attribute to your "character". Your enjoyment is yours, as in the real you. In other words, if ruining a real person's day because it gives the real you real pleasure, even if it is through a game, then you are psychologically ill. But Serene Repose said it best some few pages back, this will not make sense to a sociopath. Attempting to explain a sociopath why it is he's a sociopath is like attempting to tell a rock it's a rock. That part of the brain simply will not register.
It's the same go around as someone saying "I'm not crazy" makes them look more crazy. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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